The conversation is about how physics says that animals on the land couldn't reach the 150 and 200-someodd mph speeds that Pokemon reach.
Starting off, this is a conversation about what's in the pokemon world, and it is observed that these pokemon can reach these speeds. We're just looking into how and why; even if the how and why is how and why it's ridiculous that they are.
Post by michaelmichaels on Aug 18, 2014 23:08:12 GMT -6
When running, your feet hit the ground. That is the transfer of momentum. A force is exerted on the body and ligaments. If any land animal was to go that fast. It would obliterate any and every muscle and ligament in the body. The amount of force, and gravity would rip the animal apart. The only reason birds can go at those speeds is due to not being on the ground, and how there bodies react to aerodynamics.
Yet it is observed in Pokemon battles that many Pokemon can withstand attacks from huge boulders; electric shocks; large lb\in2 of force from getting crushed by larger Pokemon and falling large distances without damage; so Pokemon are much more resilient than normal animals.
Any argument about the capability of a Pokemon's body being able to handle the stress holds no ground in light of observed evidence. Whether their bones and cartilage are stronger or they have better anatomy or they just know the perfect way to not get hurt; it's possible and consistently happens.
Post by michaelmichaels on Aug 18, 2014 23:40:22 GMT -6
Well I am talking about actual physics not made up pokemon, sorry for confusion. I'm not going to argue this anymore because it is dumb maybe pokemon are from a different universe under different rules, but in our rational universe. No...just no.
Post by michaelmichaels on Aug 19, 2014 0:03:43 GMT -6
Marcus, I too have argued against it. With my professors on the practicality of different ideas, possibilities, and events. Yet, what I've come to see is the laws don't break for anyone. No matter how much you want something to be able to happen it won't, if it violates physics. I've learned about quantum, classical, modern, thermodynamics, and even about black holes( did research on them). Somethings just won't happen.
Yet this is an rp site, and the focus is pokemon. I will ignore all impracticalities in their case, but not human, unless I don't feel like arguing it.
About to get a whole lot worse Akane; besides, catgirls aren't all that cool anyway.
One can rationalize & give reasons for why, within the Pokemon world, these land animals can run as fast as they do while still obeying physics. It's actually pretty fun. For example, biology & normal Darwinian evolution is imperfect & incredibly slow, & thus makes it hard for creatures to be perfect versions of themselves in an ever-changing environment. Yet in the Pokemon world, evolution; both in the Darwinian sense & in the Pokemon game mechanic sense, happens hella fast. Maybe the Pokemon world's Darwinian evolution makes it so almost all of a Pokemon's genetic code stay exactly the same for their offspring, & only some specific things change. That would explain why a child of a Nidoking & a Rattata is a Nidoking & not some weird Nido-Rat mutant. This would mean that Pokemon are able to be ideal versions of themselves as imagined by our creator Arceus. This is starting to sound eerily similar to a Creationist belief system....
Biology for Pokemon happens hella fast too. Pokemon increase in strength & speed & the like by leaps & bounds from being trained. This works a lot like our biology. For example; the skeletons of medieval English bowmen are incredibly strange; because the bones on the draw half of their body are fuckinghuge compared to the bow half. It looks really freaky, honestly. That's because English longbows require crazy draw strength & bones increase in size and density to accommodate the stress put on the body.
First off, fucking cool. Second, that works for everything in the body, for the most part; & for Pokemon too, just better & faster. Maybe Pokemon's joints, bones, muscles & feet\hooves are all strengthened or hardened or made more rough at a super fast rate through training. Like a hyper metabolism, but for everything else too. Just think if a cheetah's ligaments & muscles could handle the strain of higher speeds. Better lungs & bigger heart for more oxygen; better blood vessels to get the blood to the muscles faster; bigger, red muscles with quick twitch that lower the energy needed for the same output of work; paws nearly perfect for gripping the ground & joints that can withstand the stress put on them by the run. They would clock 120 easy, even without being in some alternate universe.
That's just with a normal cheetah. Fire-breathing, hyper-intelligent creatures most certainly on a different form of evolution & biology than animals? No doubt they could reach higher speeds. They might even have superior forms of muscles, ligaments and nerves that can withstand the strain naturally, even without training.
Post by michaelmichaels on Aug 19, 2014 13:18:35 GMT -6
Ok the moment you bring Biology in you lost me. I only work with physics, and some chemistry due to quantum, and material aspects. Biology is not my strong suit.